Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sarah Ejiama

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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:43, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

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Sounds like an early career researcher with a few publications (including co-author on a decently cited Nature paper) who founded a non-notable company. Doesn't meet WP:NPROF and seems like WP:TOOSOON. Kj cheetham (talk) 19:37, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators and Women. Kj cheetham (talk) 19:37, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:48, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

• Delete. One of the easiest delete votes as my extensive searches on google, google news, google books, wikipedia library and ProQuest all got a total of two hits, and none indicated notability. CT55555 (talk) 20:05, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

  FYI, none of those search locations are appropriate for gauging C1 notability of academics in most STEM fields, as they are not going to be receiving secondary coverage in traditional media nor are they going to be heavily cited in books/have books reviewed. You need to be looking at citation counts and h-index on Scopus (GS should be used with caution as it "cites" a lot of non-academic media) to gauge relative C1 impact in these cases. JoelleJay (talk) 02:38, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

  I appreciate this tip. I know to be cautious of GS on this. But the correct way is probably the one thing I most need to learn. How exactly do I find the citation counts on Scopus? Do I need an account or something? CT55555 (talk) 02:41, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

  You do generally need a Scopus account (usually through university library access) to see some of the features of a scholar's profile, although the preview version does give a good overview: . GS generally inflates citations ~1.5-2x (for example, Scopus gives her 301 citations while GS gives her 436), with the fold change increasing with higher numbers of papers and citations. If you keep that in mind you can use it, but of course with all citation indices interpretations must be relative to the subfield. It's also important to be familiar with author contribution norms in each field/journal, since being a "middle author" on papers doesn't count as much in disciplines with ordinal or pseudo-ordinal authorship. JoelleJay (talk) 03:05, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

• Delete Does not meet notability guidelines Proton Dental (talk) 00:28, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
• Delete. Way way way TOOSOON. No chance someone with a master's working as a research assistant will have academic notability even if they're on every publication their lab puts out. JoelleJay (talk) 02:46, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. WCM_email 07:49, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
• Delete no notability Kazanstyle (talk) 09:55, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

@Kj cheethamThanks for your time. As discussed on your page and on mine, looks like most of the publications are co-authored and wouldn't count for WP:NPROF. I agreed with some of the statements here which are eye opener to me. I am happy for the page to be deleted. @JoelleJay great efforts on Scopus scores and GS as that shows the level of understanding some of your editors have here as regarding confirming notability. @CT55555 Google wouldn't be suitable for confirming C1 notability of academics as that is relevant to WP:GNG. Again, thanks all for the steer and also, for others; it's better to provide a justifiable reasons why you wanted a page deleted and example as @JoelleJay rather than just typing 'Delete'. Oceanview1590 (talk) 12:09, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

• Delete. Fails WP:NSCHOLAR at this time. Special thanks to JoelleJay for their analysis. Jacona (talk) 12:19, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
• Delete fails WP:NPROF and WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:03, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

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