Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Japanese fashion as social resistance

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 03:58, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

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The topic may be notable, but what we have here is a WP:TNTable WP:ORish mess, possibly an old educational assignment. Half of is unreferenced, half of it is/was referenced to low quality souces (blogs), most of the other sources are low quality (one academic book is cited without a page number, NYT is invoked for a mostly irrelevant claim) it still sports an essay style "conclusion" section. Worse, there are obviously "fake" references, for example the first paragraph of the "Analysis of Ganguro as Resistance" is referenced to Sacred Sites and Pilgrimage in Japan site, which aside from not being reliable doesn't even mention anything related to Ganguro or resistance. The concept of social resistance is not defined nor do we have an article on this; and the article doesn't mention this word outside the lead and two headings and two sentences in one of those. I don't think there is anything salvageable here to even suggest a merge (to Japanese street fashion, which already covers almost all that is here). If someone wants to work on this, they should start by adding a sociological analysis to that article, and then split it off. It's time to put this editing experiment out of everyone's misery. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:00, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fashion, Social science, and Japan. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:00, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
• Draftify: I found a couple of scholarly pieces that might count as RS: and . Those actually use the term "social resistance" at least once. But as it stands this is a term paper, not an encyclopedia article, and it's packed with WP:SYNTH drawn from low-quality sources. Someone must care enough about this topic to write a decent article, but this isn't it and won't be until it's bombed and rebuilt. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 15:17, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
• Delete: Per nominator, I think anything sporting fake references is worthy of TNT. Bensci54 (talk) 16:50, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:50, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

• Delete: we already have articles on lolita fashion and Ganguro, both much better cited (and written) than this article. Further, the article is based on 2 premises: that Lolita and Ganguro both involve "social resistance" (not proven), and that scholars have grouped the two fashions together for their social resistance (doesn't seem to be true, so the conjunction is WP:OR). Since it is unlikely there's anything in this essay that can be merged to either target, we should delete it now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:32, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
• Delete, WP:OR. Dekimasuよ! 01:33, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.