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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of a fair use image as a replaceable image. Please do not modify it.
The result was to delete the image. — ξxplicit 01:11, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
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Response to disputed tag
@Kyle223cat: Who says this is free use? Just because it is on the Internet does not make it free and there is no indication whatsoever on that page that this is a free use image. --Majora (talk) 00:48, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Majora: I didn't say it was free use. Actually I said it isn't, hence me saying "I couldn't really find a category that would fit this image" under free use nor did I say just because it is on the internet, that automatically makes it free. Honestly not sure where you got that from. What I'm wondering is why it says the picture may fail the first non-free content criterion when, as we all know, the picture isn't free. I'm especially puzzled since there probably won't be any such "free use" picture of Sam Clemmett on the internet. So I am wondering how you would get a picture of him on Wikipedia, I'm no expert on this. Kyle223cat (talk) 01:17, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Kyle223cat: Ah. My mistake. Our fair use policy can be found here WP:NFCCP. What the first criterion states is that a free use image is impossible to find and it is completely unreasonable that one could not be created or found. Generally, all photos of living people fail this criterion. This is because it is reasonable that a free use image could be created since all someone would have to do is find the person and take a photo. Fair use photos of people are generally only acceptable if the person is dead as additional photos literally could not be created anymore. So, at this point it doesn't look like we can keep this photo since it doesn't meet our fair use policy. --Majora (talk) 01:22, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Majora: Oh I understand it better now, thank you! Well that stinks we won't be able to keep the photo on Wikipedia but I do understand the reasoning behind it. So I guess unless I can fly from the US to the UK, find Sam Clemmett, and take a picture of him personally (which would be totally awesome btw haha), I can't upload a photo of him. Kyle223cat (talk) 01:28, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Kyle223cat: You could always attempt to contact them and ask them to release a photo. As long as we get permission from the copyright holder we can use it and it might seem farfetched but we have plenty of photos that have been released by talent agencies, celebrities, etc. for use on Wikipedia. The rise of Twitter and things like that where you can directly contact celebrities has made that a lot easier. For more information on this please see WP:COPYREQ. We even have form letters that you can send to people asking for things like this. You would probably want something like this one: Wikipedia:Example requests for permission#Formal request for high-quality publicity image. But anything like that would do. If you want to go down this route and have questions please don't hesitate to leave me a message on my talk page. --Majora (talk) 01:35, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Majora: Awesome ideas, thank you. I'll definitely keep that in mind, I always forget it's way easier to contact celebrities than it used to be. --Kyle223cat (talk)|
- @Kyle223cat: You could always attempt to contact them and ask them to release a photo. As long as we get permission from the copyright holder we can use it and it might seem farfetched but we have plenty of photos that have been released by talent agencies, celebrities, etc. for use on Wikipedia. The rise of Twitter and things like that where you can directly contact celebrities has made that a lot easier. For more information on this please see WP:COPYREQ. We even have form letters that you can send to people asking for things like this. You would probably want something like this one: Wikipedia:Example requests for permission#Formal request for high-quality publicity image. But anything like that would do. If you want to go down this route and have questions please don't hesitate to leave me a message on my talk page. --Majora (talk) 01:35, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Majora: Oh I understand it better now, thank you! Well that stinks we won't be able to keep the photo on Wikipedia but I do understand the reasoning behind it. So I guess unless I can fly from the US to the UK, find Sam Clemmett, and take a picture of him personally (which would be totally awesome btw haha), I can't upload a photo of him. Kyle223cat (talk) 01:28, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Kyle223cat: Ah. My mistake. Our fair use policy can be found here WP:NFCCP. What the first criterion states is that a free use image is impossible to find and it is completely unreasonable that one could not be created or found. Generally, all photos of living people fail this criterion. This is because it is reasonable that a free use image could be created since all someone would have to do is find the person and take a photo. Fair use photos of people are generally only acceptable if the person is dead as additional photos literally could not be created anymore. So, at this point it doesn't look like we can keep this photo since it doesn't meet our fair use policy. --Majora (talk) 01:22, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it.